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Post by Terran Kovu 2009-05-18, 20:10

I pick Star Trek Cause of its Advanced Weapons and Stuff.


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Post by Stryker 2009-05-18, 20:15

star trek for the ideal future.

Starwars for the cool lightsaber battles.
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Post by Earthdeath 2009-05-18, 20:21

How many of these polls have we had?
ah well,who cares.
Star trek, Way better tech, hell we even have laser weapons now, which is what they use in SW
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Post by FlashFreak22 2009-05-18, 20:31

Well, they mostly use them to clear out mines or something, right? But i choose SW because I never watched star trek and in SW compared to nothing, SW dominates.
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Post by Terran Kovu 2009-05-18, 20:34

Star Trek or Star Wars?  You choose. Enterpriseoz1
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Post by Terran Kovu 2009-05-18, 20:35

Star wars could never kill star trek. Look how much these next ships took a beating. Star Wars would loss.
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Post by Terran Kovu 2009-05-18, 20:37

Star Trek or Star Wars?  You choose. Voyager-Year-of-Hell-
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Post by Galaxy-Scarface 2009-05-18, 21:02

dont triple post. oooh, could i use that last post as my avatar? star wars wins, they have the force andthey could destroy even the borg. i doubt the borg would ever be able to assimilate a jedi. the info is all here.
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Post by Terran Kovu 2009-05-18, 21:05

Star Wars was ment for kids. Star Trek is for men. I might be 1 year older then you but im no kid.
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Post by Earthdeath 2009-05-19, 16:54

[nerdyness] The jedi would be owned by Q in less than a second, and unlike SW, the primary weapon used isnt an extremely slow moving laser.[/nerdyness]
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Post by Shemuel 2009-05-19, 17:16

Star wars, because it isn't bogged down by ideals.
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Post by Thingy 2009-05-19, 17:33

ST for the realism. The numbers, firing rates and so on is realistic, while SW just has a bunch of random maxed out stuff. If we get out into space, things might look a bit like ST, but there's no way we're going to be anywhere near SW. And i say a bit because of the laws of physics, ships designed the way ST and SW ships are would litterally tear themselves apart every time they tried to do a turn.
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Post by me naam is m 2009-05-19, 17:35

Terran Kovu wrote:I pick Star Trek Cause of its Advanced Weapons and Stuff.
there's an specific ban on this kind of topics if i'm correct, SW vs ST always end in derogatory flamewars.

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Post by Shemuel 2009-05-19, 17:43

Oh yes, that's right.
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Post by Galaxy-Scarface 2009-05-19, 17:56

no, thats only on VX, isnt it? and we can debate, but if we start flaming i will lock this topic so fast...
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Post by FlashFreak22 2009-05-19, 18:13

Star Trek doesn't have enough mystical guardians with telekinesis. Either way, because the two fantasy universes aren't in the same one, it would be impossible to determine which one would win in a war. "Power" is all relevant. Let's say the Enterprise has a certain energy output for her phasers, and an SSD has way more. You have no way of knowing whether their energy measurements are similar even if they are both "Watts". Even if one empire is better, ST would just use some gigantic plot hole that would swallow Coruscant and win the war, but a tiny rebellion would start in the middle of the ST empire and grow in defiance and power, until a farm boy from a desert planet would become a great leader and lead them to victory.
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Post by Stryker 2009-05-19, 19:15

ohh war then...

Ok even if star wars would win, ST would just go back in the past and destroy their civilization before it took off. Star trek would always win only because they keep on using the overused them of time travel.
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Post by Thingy 2009-05-19, 19:58

Actually, if you let the federation advance as much as the star wars civilizations have, ST would probably completely own SW. the empire has probably had thousands and thousands of years to grow while the federation is pretty new
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Post by Terran Kovu 2009-05-19, 23:14

Im not flaming, but my ship on startrek legacy is, lol.
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Post by me naam is m 2009-05-20, 06:31

Thingy wrote:the empire has probably had thousands and thousands of years to grow
incorrect, just a few years
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Post by Karlo 2009-05-20, 07:21

i have not seen ST (NO!!! DW don't kill me!! must i quote i failed)
By order of your great and masterful ruler (that's me) WATCH STAR TREK NOW!!!!!!


i like everything about SW also cause so much is unanswered, what i also like about it is that it is so mysterious, very mysterious, like the force.


from what i have seen of cut-off videos from ST, it seems very nice as well, though i prefer SW over ST right now.
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Post by Galaxy-Scarface 2009-05-20, 17:53

Karlo wrote:i have not seen ST (NO!!! DW don't kill me!! must i quote i failed)
By order of your great and masterful ruler (that's me) WATCH STAR TREK NOW!!!!!!
guess who else has failed.
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Post by Earthdeath 2009-05-20, 18:29

Well after seeing the new film, ST would definitely win, but i cant say why that would be without spoiling the plot.
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Post by Terran Kovu 2009-05-21, 23:20

Good Music, Not a spam, this page is boring so im giving it music.



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Post by Karlo 2009-05-22, 05:44

WARNING! SPAM DETECTED.


SMITE IS IMMINENT





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Post by Thingy 2009-05-22, 11:12

hey, take it easy. He's a newbie, give him a chance

@kovu you should go read the rules, they're in the intro section. Also, there are some useful threads in the general chat thread.
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Post by me naam is m 2009-05-22, 11:28

Thingy wrote:hey, take it easy. He's a newbie, give him a chance
I agree, Karlo is as close to being a newbie as he accuses others of it.
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Post by Terran Kovu 2009-05-22, 16:43

back to Star Wars vs Star Trek. And im not spaming, i think Karlo does not like 80s and tecno music.
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Post by Thingy 2009-05-22, 17:07

no sane person does... so, share it with DJ. But what you did was go off topic, extremely off topic. Always try to stick to the topic or something close to it.
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Post by Earthdeath 2009-05-22, 19:37

Yeah, do get back on, or i will lock it when i can be bothered.
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Post by Enish Lord 2009-05-22, 20:55

I Star Wars would win because they have been developing their technology for 25,030 years (from formation of the republic to the end of the Yuuzhan Vong war) or more. If you gave Star Trek all that time, they would probably be equal.

I am not counting the Q because they are uber.
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Post by Earthdeath 2009-05-22, 21:04

Actually, seeing how Trek went above and beyond SWs tech in just a few centuries, if it was given that amount of time it would completely own Star Wars.

And ST has sheer numbers.SW has just a couple hundred, maybe thousand ships, but nearly every race in ST has a few thousand each, and there is thousands of races.
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Post by Karlo 2009-05-23, 12:45

true, i am not sure myself how many races are in SW, but in a browser game about SW, it appears to have only around a hundred races to play.



Thingy wrote:hey, take it easy. He's a newbie, give him a chance

@kovu you should go read the rules, they're in the intro section. Also, there are some useful threads in the general chat thread.



oops sorry, good point, i had forgotten he was only new, sorry.



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Post by Shemuel 2009-05-23, 13:44

Earthdeath wrote:Actually, seeing how Trek went above and beyond SWs tech in just a few centuries, if it was given that amount of time it would completely own Star Wars.

And ST has sheer numbers.SW has just a couple hundred, maybe thousand ships, but nearly every race in ST has a few thousand each, and there is thousands of races.

Um.. remember the size of the council in SW? Each representative was of a planet or a system.
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Post by JPB18 2009-05-23, 15:39

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Earthdeath wrote:Actually, seeing how Trek went above and beyond SWs tech in just a few centuries, if it was given that amount of time it would completely own Star Wars.

And ST has sheer numbers.SW has just a couple hundred, maybe thousand ships, but nearly every race in ST has a few thousand each, and there is thousands of races.

Um.. remember the size of the council in SW? Each representative was of a planet or a system.

Besides... the feds don't have thousands of planets each specie... they have at the best hundreds of planets... SW have several thousands of planets (just the Empire)... The empire have a huge military ships to defend each sistem... the squadrons on ST must defend entire sectors... besides... the fleet of the Empire at their top was of 10000 Star Destroyers, forgetting the other ships (like the super star destroyers and back up frigates)... the Feds are limited to less than 1000 ships...
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Post by Galaxy-Scarface 2009-05-23, 15:52

and i want to make this clear, we're talking about ALL the ships in SW, from the first one to the last one-over 300,000 years! for Trek, its probably been only about 3,000 years since the first alien ship, and 3,000 more into the future, so it's really only 6,000 years of ships compared to 300,000 yeARS.
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Post by FlashFreak22 2009-05-23, 22:13

And also let's speak super weapons. The Empire made 1: Death Star. Deceased.

2: Another one. Deceased.

3: Galaxy gun. Deceased.

4: Shade things that blacked out an entire planet. Out there somewhere.

5: Sun crusher. Destroys an entire solar system. Out there probably, considering it's been "Destroyed" a dozen times now.

6: World devastator. Strips a planet of it's resources. Dozens still out there.

7: Eclipse SSD. Mini-superlaser.

8: Eclipse 2. Another mini-superlaser.

8 things, all capable of destroying a planet or more. If they started making new ones, ST would die of screwagness. Don't forget Centerpoint station, capable of destroying anything with massive gravitational force, and the Star Forge, which can make thousands and thousands of star ships.
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FlashFreak22 wrote:And also let's speak super weapons. The Empire made 1: Death Star. Deceased.

2: Another one. Deceased.

3: Galaxy gun. Deceased.

4: Shade things that blacked out an entire planet. Out there somewhere.

5: Sun crusher. Destroys an entire solar system. Out there probably, considering it's been "Destroyed" a dozen times now.

6: World devastator. Strips a planet of it's resources. Dozens still out there.

7: Eclipse SSD. Mini-superlaser.

8: Eclipse 2. Another mini-superlaser.

8 things, all capable of destroying a planet or more. If they started making new ones, ST would die of screwagness. Don't forget Centerpoint station, capable of destroying anything with massive gravitational force, and the Star Forge, which can make thousands and thousands of star ships.

Equivalent to those ships... just only the Bioships and that from ST: ENT...
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Post by Galaxy-Scarface 2009-05-24, 11:17

and the deceased ones won't be deceased anymore if they would battle.
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Post by Thingy 2009-05-24, 11:47

just send the borg at them, they'll all get assimilated or destroyed. Including the jedi.
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Post by JPB18 2009-05-24, 12:08

Thingy wrote:just send the borg at them, they'll all get assimilated or destroyed. Including the jedi.

I don't believe the jedi would be assimilated .... they have strong mind powers capable of doing things you know they do...
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Post by Thingy 2009-05-24, 12:09

yes, mind powers given by glorified bacteria. And bacteria can be copied and put into people. The only thing that makes them different is those bacteria.
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Post by FlashFreak22 2009-05-24, 14:42

Umm. Actually, the midi clorians are just a side effect of force potential. Normal living things have only a few, but jedi have an enormous amount because of the Force, not the other way around.
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Post by Thingy 2009-05-24, 15:10

well, yeah, but still. If they can get overrun by normal soldiers, they can get overrun by the borg. And they're very few, so it's not hard to get them all
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Post by Galaxy-Scarface 2009-05-24, 15:43

ALL force users that ever existed? think again.
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Post by Thingy 2009-05-24, 16:08

oh no, 20 survived, OH NO! THEY MIGHT DESTROY US ALL!!!.

But no, seriously, most would get slaughtered/ assimilated
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Post by Earthdeath 2009-05-24, 22:12

Or shot from space.
And what about the Dysons?
What about the species 8-whatever?
And the Borg have huge numbers.they have hundreds of ships, each with hundreds of thousands drones on them.
And if everything from all fought, Q ad his people would be enough, but what about that civ from VOY that wipes entire empires out in an instant?(they were in year of hell i think)
And lasers are crap anyway.for the 5th time, WE ALREADY HAVE THEM.If we already have them on earth, they have got to suck.And what about the thing from the new ST film?(No spoilers to those who haven't seen it)
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Post by Terran Kovu 2009-05-26, 18:33

Species 8472 with there weapon could get them. Dont forget the Q. One snap and Star Wars is gone.
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Post by Stryker 2009-05-26, 18:56

who has more people??? (if were talking about complete histories here, im getting kinda confused, because in ST that would include like how ever far back they went in time, so that would be like most of Earth history, would that include all of the history of the Klingons, Romulans, Dominion, Borg, Cardasians? IDK

who has better resources? I think SW has better resources as they as a bit more widespread.

who has better technology?: ST by a longshot. You can't even compare ST to SW in this catagory. One ship equipeed with quantum torpedoes could take a stardestroyer. I'm talking about a small ship here like a nova class or something. It would need only about 4 or 5. I think the technology is the trump card here.

But ya the true trump card is Q.
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Post by Thingy 2009-05-26, 20:26

a nova? that's like an X wing or something like that, and they got shot down by point defenses. The ST tech is more realistic but alot weaker, but if you give it more time it'll make the star wars lasers look like BB guns
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