I have a suggestion...

let's make a new game! doubt i'll be getting BM3 back, so let's make something new and cool (heh heh, that rhymed!)

please post you opinion/views/suggestions on this

Well i dont have any ideas.
But what kind of thing would you be willing to make?

well, a flash game obviously. not an mmorpg though (they are possible to make with flash though very complicated)

i don't know, whatever, it doesn't have to be star trek, but it can be. something with a whole new engine would be cool, and a cool storyline, i don't know, just stuff i guess, whatever you think

hmmm... is there anything from BSG (without Jerome's mod)?

We could try to make a campaign that look like the series... or...

You can just continue BM3, delay a little bit the deadline and finish that darn game! I mean, now you know how to do some things... and there must be a link or something on the net with those sprites! I mean... you posted most of them around here, remember?

not the newer sprites, and the new vexxians, and display panels, and i'm really not into redoing all that work from memory. the game could be something fictional, doesn't have to be from a tv series or anything, just throwing that out there

Why stop now when you're so close to finishing BM3? You might not be getting the stick back but you can delay it for a month or so and finish it, you've put alot of time and effort into it and so have i and the other programmers.

Darkwing wrote:not the newer sprites, and the new vexxians, and display panels, and i'm really not into redoing all that work from memory. the game could be something fictional, doesn't have to be from a tv series or anything, just throwing that out there

Darn... ok... let me think a bit... then I would help you... BTW... BMIV postponed until someone decides to make BMIII.... obvious that I wont be launching BMIV if BMIII is not out...

but there was so much added in the last two months, you're not getting that, and I'd just as rather start something fresh and new, and something that still doesn't reak of vex's engine, to just go back a couple months and start over again and push the deadline back isn't that simple, my life is busier now, so what took two months before, probably would take four, and nothing will ever be done again to quite the same capacity as before, and to make the new sprites over again, I'd have to find the schematics on the net, and some of them were pretty obscure to find

JPB18 wrote:

Darkwing wrote:not the newer sprites, and the new vexxians, and display panels, and i'm really not into redoing all that work from memory. the game could be something fictional, doesn't have to be from a tv series or anything, just throwing that out there

Darn... ok... let me think a bit... then I would help you... BTW... BMIV postponed until someone decides to make BMIII.... obvious that I wont be launching BMIV if BMIII is not out...

well, it shouldn't require that much of BM3, does it? just change the name!

Yeah, that would completely crumble the BM series. But if there's no way you can continue working on BM3, i guess something new. You know, not that tower defence crap that has been spamming the flash websites but something more inovative. Like... an adventure ala oblivion/ fallout 3? lots of side quests, lots of destinations, lots of weapons/loot/other stuff and open ended?

well, the BM series is essentially very repetitive, it just looks better with each version, and with a dif intor text. something new would be cool, but i don't play very many games (2 in fact) so I'd need help with the engine style and things like that, that's why I need your input

Darkwing wrote:

JPB18 wrote:

Darkwing wrote:not the newer sprites, and the new vexxians, and display panels, and i'm really not into redoing all that work from memory. the game could be something fictional, doesn't have to be from a tv series or anything, just throwing that out there

Darn... ok... let me think a bit... then I would help you... BTW... BMIV postponed until someone decides to make BMIII.... obvious that I wont be launching BMIV if BMIII is not out...

well, it shouldn't require that much of BM3, does it? just change the name!

The name and the whole story line in fact... Or... just send me that .fla file... I will try to make something out of that... And the old pack of sprites, sounds and stuff you're thinking to add... in a zip, rar, 7z file, if it can be possible...

so you were going to use the source of BM3 to make BM4?

Darkwing wrote:so you were going to use the source of BM3 to make BM4?

No... I will try to finish your project, before continuing in BMIII, if you allow that...

well, you could probably finish off the conquest mode, but I doubt the campaign mode would get off the ground (no offense, but you're able to take a stab at it)

i'll upload it later on and post a link

Darkwing wrote:well, you could probably finish off the conquest mode, but I doubt the campaign mode would get off the ground (no offense, but you're able to take a stab at it)

i'll upload it later on and post a link

ok... if you have time, you could try to teach me to finish the campaign mode after the conquest is finished...

campaign was never started, i don't really know how to do something until i go out and do it, so teaching how to do it would be near impossible

Darkwing wrote:campaign was never started, i don't really know how to do something until i go out and do it, so teaching how to do it would be near impossible

so, first option... deleting the campaign button...

If you choose to make a game like my suggestion, i could help you design it (no programming involved though). I'm playing oblivion and fallout 3 and i've played a bunch of other open ended games.

what's am open ended game?

Darkwing wrote:what's am open ended game?

it's a game with several end scenerys, that change while you're playing... if you do something, you might possibly be changing the ending with each move you do... a ST: Tactical Assault has a part of tha sistem, but limited to missions... not the full game...

hm, i don't know if flash would be capable of something like that, flash tends to need to be structured, such that there is a programmed ending and whatnot

A game where you're not forced to do the campaign, but you can go exploring, do sidequests etc, it's perfect for RPG's. You should try fallout 3 if you dont mind some 13+ stuff and have a good enough computer. It's also about being able to change the world, like killing someone important would make that person dissapear forever / appear in another form like a zombie, ghost or whatever.


It will take time and effort to make but as those are rare (most flash developers just make some crappy tower defence game instead of going for the better stuff) it'll probably be something better than the standard

Well... you know... DW is now 18 years old, my dear buddy...

Darkwing wrote:hm, i don't know if flash would be capable of something like that, flash tends to need to be structured, such that there is a programmed ending and whatnot

Yeah, that could be a problem. But i think it could be possible if you limit the non linearity (not as much ability to manipulate your enviroment etc). But if it's not possible, i guess you could go for a normal RPG with a linear campaign/story but also the ability to go explore and do sidequests or something.

JPB18 wrote:Well... you know... DW is now 18 years old, my dear buddy...

what's that supposed to mean?

he was saying that you could play fallout 3 if you don't mind about 13+ effects and stuffs... you're eighteen, so...

oh, i get it. well, maybe instead of determaining an engine, we develop a story, and build the engine to the story

Darkwing wrote:oh, i get it. well, maybe instead of determaining an engine, we develop a story, and build the engine to the story

better... remember that rpg that we had some time ago that was happening in 2100s? maybe that?

what, the new order?

Darkwing wrote:what, the new order?

yes... maybe something related with that...

hm, i don't know, maybe, there'd be all kinds of post war style planets and maps and things, but we'd have to really develop the story, something we didn't really do with Rp

so... the background would be the same, but we would develop the story a little bit more...

well, we'd have to develop even the background more

hmmm, sounds ok to do that. how about first though you finish BlastEm like you said you were going to do? and maybe a sci-fi game like the new order, but with aliens and humans warring against each other or something like that.

yeah, you should develop that old flash game of yours in into a proper one first.

you were making that dreadnought game.

yeah, i would like to see that finished.

so not doing dreadnought, it was going nowhere, and blast em was on my flash stick, though i know how to start that from scratch, but i want to make something more in depth, notjust an arcade game

as i just said somewhere else: finish bm2 with MNIM!

Then my suggestion would be the best. An RPG would let you make a really deep story (the ability to add detailed scenery, terrain, people, objects and so on) without sacrificing gameplay. Or you could just finish BM2, that one's not so far from the finish i think

You could base it around a game or movie rather than make something up if you don't know what to do.

what is it with you guys and the Broken Mirror series? BM1 is good enough, the rest are just rip off mods of BM1. BM isn't really all that great, i can list the thing you do: Blow stuff up, or trade then blow stuff up, i never even finished playing the game because it got boring after i conquered the first 20 planets

It's pure GOLD compared to the standard vomit out there. Just have a look at newgrounds or kongregate and you'll know what i mean.

well, i still think it's boring, so i wouldn't quite give it gold

yeah, it is mindlessly repetitive.
So a new thing should be done instead.

How about something like ST: The Wrath of Riker, but less pornographic?

I think you should do your film and leave it at that. You say your life is busy and it can only get busier in the next year. You've got final exams coming up, and then uni.

Shemuel wrote:I think you should do your film and leave it at that. You say your life is busy and it can only get busier in the next year. You've got final exams coming up, and then uni.

indeed... let's see... I will continue BMIII from the point you have in your HD... m is doing BMII... and you're making a new movie... like that sequence?

well, i still want to make a game, i feel like i've cheated the world cause i was like vex and didn't finsih it, now i'm like him, so i want to make a game and finish it. and my movie is a short film series, so it's an ongoing project