Religious debate number 23976

Well, no one can fully understand the ancient languages of the bible, since they're... ancient. And, the majority of people don't speak ancient languages.

So, that is why the ancient codex must be translated into the modern languages.

With that in mind, which bible translation do you prefer?

BTW, you meant to say your dad was able to read Latin right? (Roman isn't a language lol)

And even if your dad was able to read latin, the latin bibles he may have read would have to have been translated, since the original bible was written in only Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek.

greek!!! sorry, you're right, but he spoke greek, not latin. Hm, if I was going to uni this year I'd be learning basic latin

Latin can be useful, for talking to ruins.

and learning other languages, and history, and learning the roots of most languages used today

Talking to ruins?

What?

LOL, like in Indiana Jones, he's always reading outloud the stuff inscribed in the ruins. Therefore, talking to ruins.

I get it!

Oh, and latin is very useful. Latin and greek are also useful in the medical field.

leewatson1 wrote:i have no idea how that will be pretty anyway do you ever think when all humans die out and a new species becomes intelligent like us do you think the will well use our left over technology or put us in museams

Have you seen the documentrys on the History channel and the Discovery channel? Life after people. It really interesting. I would think, that it would take too long for a species to evolve to find our remaining things.

and in basically all science, as i believ most of if not all of the scientific nomenclature is in latin

I can summarize history in 2 words if i want. But i don't really need to know the roots of my own language. And Science is the only important thing in which you need latin.

And as for bibles, I have never actually read one.

honestly, how old are you? no more of this BSing I'm tired of it

how can you debate religion? whats there to debate? people will have their opinions and i dont think anyone will be converted here, i dont see the point in this

if you don't see the point, then don't post or look at the topic. nobody's forcing you to

BSing??
And people just want to discuss their views here.

I thought this way just a think tank wondering what life would be on earth after we're gone. I don't personally believe in Evolution, but I find it an interesting concept.

Darkwing wrote:Each religion worships a God/Gods, but they are not the same

Well thank about it DW. There is one main god, in let's say, ancient Greek mythology, his name is Zeus. Then there are the minor gods and goddess, Athena, and the like.. Some of those represent the main Angels in Christian belief. Though I'm slightly tired, so what I remember may be slightly askew.

some religions yes have similarities between their holy figures, but it's not the same being shared in all religions.

True, I can't argue with that.

Darkwing wrote:some religions yes have similarities between their holy figures, but it's not the same being shared in all religions.

us catholics have a saint for about everything, so other religions think we worship saints more than god. they say during the rapture we are going to stay on earth and burn.

i talked to a non-catholic priest about it before, he tried to explain it all nicely but what he really wanted to say was "you're gonna burn"

do you know anything about catholics DJ?

I go to a Catholic school. Apparently you people pray to the saints so they can talk to God and intercede on your behalf. At least, that's what I get from theology class and uber-conservative uptight teachers.

Kinda defeats the purpose of having Jesus, you know.

ive never really got the difference between catholic and protestant, what is the difference they both worshipp the same god

Protestants that are not Episcopalian/Anglican don't follow Catholic traditions (indulgences, saints, etc.) nor do they have a central authority (Pope.) Strict adherence to the Bible rather than outside interpretations.

well im glad im not catholic then all then getting up early in the morning for church

Alkanosis wrote:I go to a Catholic school. Apparently you people pray to the saints so they can talk to God and intercede on your behalf. At least, that's what I get from theology class and uber-conservative uptight teachers.

Kinda defeats the purpose of having Jesus, you know.

yeah, they kind of ignored the no other covenants are needed bit. And technically, worshipping saints and virgin mary as a means to god, is the same as worshipping idols, big no no in the ten commandments

Well, we bent other races technology so we could, my question is, we are all freaked out by the mayan calendar ending in 2012, will the future races freak out about our calendar ending?

...Heh?

I don't give a crap about the Mayans and aliens don't give a crap about what happens to us.

seriously on this forum why is the myan calender mention every 5 minutes why not mention notradamus or someone if your that worried about end of the world

Well, fortunately, most people here have the inteligence not to believe in that crap, but i guess it reflects on the pure freaking stupidity a human can achieve.

i know, 2012 seems to be a big thing here. it's rubbish plane and imply rubbish. the worst that will happen is a snowstorm or something

or we brits will screw up the olympics

Yep. We create the apocalypse via an abysmally bad stadium.

Geddit, abysmally bad?

Sorry.

its only gonna be bad because gordon brown spent all the money on chips and bacon buttees

josh1231993 wrote:seriously on this forum why is the myan calender mention every 5 minutes why not mention notradamus or someone if your that worried about end of the world

Because the people on this forum believe everything extinct races have to say. Even if it's a load of bologna.

mmmmm, processed meat

leewatson1 wrote:i have no idea how that will be pretty anyway do you ever think when all humans die out and a new species becomes intelligent like us do you think the will well use our left over technology or put us in museams

I was actually answering the first post on here, sorry, i thought that was the point. And I never said anything about aliens, so don't attack me on something I never said. Nosterdamus is just as false as the calendar though, people see his predictions as correct because they want something to be afraid of, they want an explanation for the end, just how religion was invented to,well, explain everything they don't understand. Well, that and to try to give reason to life, a goal at the end, you know, heaven or hell, Elysium, Valhalla, Fields of Aaru, Jannat or Jannaham. So, in the end, isn't religion similar to the boogy man? Im speaking about this from a logical point of view, not as a christian,obviously, but disconnection from ones beliefs can bring understanding.

any way tbh it religions fault were not colonising space right now, as they put al technological and scientific advancement down to witch craft simply because it could be explained by the bible

hahahaha just like those crazy new fangled flying machines? How do they work? I guess we'll never know.
But really, how often do these debates take place here? xD

i have no idea i assume is alot im still relatively new

KeeganDavis wrote:

leewatson1 wrote:i have no idea how that will be pretty anyway do you ever think when all humans die out and a new species becomes intelligent like us do you think the will well use our left over technology or put us in museams

I was actually answering the first post on here, sorry, i thought that was the point. And I never said anything about aliens, so don't attack me on something I never said. Nosterdamus is just as false as the calendar though, people see his predictions as correct because they want something to be afraid of, they want an explanation for the end, just how religion was invented to,well, explain everything they don't understand. Well, that and to try to give reason to life, a goal at the end, you know, heaven or hell, Elysium, Valhalla, Fields of Aaru, Jannat or Jannaham. So, in the end, isn't religion similar to the boogy man? Im speaking about this from a logical point of view, not as a christian,obviously, but disconnection from ones beliefs can bring understanding.

sooo, should i just leave now?

it's nice to see you're all so cold hearted and close minded to think of everyone religious as just plane and simply stupid idiots

i dont think of those who follow religion as stupid just that they have been misinformed or that they have not moved in to the 21st century

Never said idiots, illogical. Your obviously intelligent, much more then any religious person I know in my hometown, they wont even listen to my ideas about religion,Im just an idiot whose going to hell and have no idea what im talking about, but you guys actually say something intelligent in return. I was just saying my side, and that i believe when there are so many religions through out history, what makes you so sure yours is the real one out of the thousands?

so, i am therefore misinformed and haven't moved into the 21st century?

well in a way yes, the amount of people going to church has been declining for years those who are left are just ignorant of the truth.

no offence.

because my religion is the only one (that I have been able to find) where the God of the religion, sacrificed themself for their creation, and then rose themself from the dead.

josh1231993 wrote:well in a way yes, the amount of people going to church has been declining for years those who are left are just ignorant of the truth.

no offence.

i don;t go to church. perhaps you should do your homework before engaging in a debate becauyse quite frankly it makes you look misinformed and afraid.

Aaaah... The joy of living in an atheist country...

And i agree with josh and davis, but i dont think trying to inform everyone about it is going to help. Trying to convince them that they're wrong doesnt work, it'll just wii them.

convincing who? me or them?

well, that makes it real? If I write a book, claiming Jim Poper was the son of god, and he destroyed giant alien demon bugs to save us all, then died so we could live on, and it lasts for thousands of years, does that make it real? Your proof is that the book says so?

Oh, Im not athiest, im actually christian, Im just a logical scientific christian, who looks outside my religion for science.

what i was stating a fact not passing judgement, i didnt mention you going to church, i said those going to church and following religion with devotion

no, i use archeological proof, proof of scholars, proof of sight, see, it;s about as scientific as it gets, people just aren't willing to admit it because then it means they;re answerable, and trsut me, people don't like being answerable for their actions and thoughts