Doomsday Poll

by Jim Russ 2009-01-23, 18:13

This post is inspired by the discussion in the Views of the Future Post.

by Stryker 2009-01-23, 18:16

i bet Earth outlives humans.

by Shemuel 2009-01-23, 18:36

I will put in 'religious event' ie. Revelations

edit by DW: it's Revelation, not Revelations

by Philly Homer 2009-01-23, 18:37

Because we all know that a dragon with 14,000 heads with 120 horns on each head will eat us all.

by Jim Russ 2009-01-23, 18:39

It had 7 heads and 10 horns.

by Philly Homer 2009-01-23, 18:40

Has*

And I know, but I'm of the thought that anything in Revelation should not be read literally.

by Shemuel 2009-01-23, 18:40

Well every time i sent the edited version to post, one of you posts, messing it up. And I will also put global warming as a reason.

EDIT: No, it shouldn't be taken literally.

by Philly Homer 2009-01-23, 18:41

Global warming? You know that Al Gore invented both global warming and the internet, right?

by Jim Russ 2009-01-23, 18:41

Alkanosis wrote:Has*

And I know, but I'm of the thought that anything in Revelation should not be read literally.

Some things are and some things aren’t.

by Philly Homer 2009-01-23, 18:47

*Shrugs*

And on global warming: It was about 1 or 2 degrees warmer during the Middle Ages, and that has nothing to do with greenhouse gases. It was followed by a cooling period. Later during 1900-1940, industrialization and other such things raised the atmospheric temperature again, but a cooling period followed afterward, causing glaciers to advance and frost to damage crops. Only recently (after 1975 or so) has the global atmospheric temperature risen again. Global warming is not really a viable cause for concern, the atmosphere is in a constant state of flux, warming and cooling. Global warming is really nothing to be afraid of; just a political scare.

by Shemuel 2009-01-23, 18:49

You know, on all of my time in life and on the net, I have never actually met somebody who is a global warming scepticist and isn't American.

Anyway, let's not go there.

by Jim Russ 2009-01-23, 18:50

It’s still a debatable topic.

by Shemuel 2009-01-23, 18:51

Yes, but not in this topic

by Jim Russ 2009-01-23, 18:52

Yeah, Oh, thanks for putting that extra stuff up.
If you want to go there, start another topic. It might be interesting…

by Philly Homer 2009-01-23, 18:53

Shemuel wrote:global warming sKepticist and isn't American

*Shrugs*

Of course it's happening. But there's no cause of concern about it. The world is heating up, and I pose the question: so what? It's happened many times before and it's happening now. So what?

by Jim Russ 2009-01-23, 18:57

Global Warming happens naturally, the same way ice ages do.

by Philly Homer 2009-01-23, 19:00

Exactly. Whatever we do contributes little or nothing at all.

by Jim Russ 2009-01-23, 19:02

Of course we can speed up the process, but its all natural.

by Shemuel 2009-01-23, 19:24

Alkanosis wrote:
Shemuel wrote:global warming sKepticist and isn't American

*Shrugs*

Of course it's happening. But there's no cause of concern about it. The world is heating up, and I pose the question: so what? It's happened many times before and it's happening now. So what?

In Britain, sceptic is spelt with a 'c'.

But do you deny that events such as El Nino and desertification in the sahel are happening at an alarming rate?

by Philly Homer 2009-01-23, 19:27

Of course not. I don't deny anything as long as the evidence points to it. Global warming is a different matter entirely, as you can't exactly tell whether or not it's natural or it's caused by greenhouse gas emissions.

On desertification, it's happening because of overgrazing, apparently.

by Darkjedi 2009-01-23, 20:29

Alkanosis wrote:Because we all know that a dragon with 14,000 heads with 120 horns on each head will eat us all.

Don't you just love Revelation? LOL!

by me naam is m 2009-01-23, 20:42

Alkanosis wrote:Exactly. Whatever we do contributes little or nothing at all.

dude. the Co2 levels have more than DOUBLED in the last 150 years. don't tell me it has no influence. that's freaking Bull excrement.

Jim Russ wrote:Of course we can speed up the process, but its all natural.

of course we can speed up the process by 3000%, but dude, it's all natural... Mad

to all of you who believe in a fast and all-destructive Armageddon: dude. even the existence of Santa Clause is more likely. although it has been proved many times over that he's just a ripoff.

by Jim Russ 2009-01-23, 21:40

mnim...calm down. I think that the process is natural and that we are contributing toward that greatly. But we can't control what nature has in store.

by me naam is m 2009-01-24, 06:09

i am calm, but i believe the correct word to describe my previous post should be 'sarcasm'.

by Shemuel 2009-01-24, 09:10

Yet again in global warming discussions, it is Americans versus Europeans.

by Philly Homer 2009-01-24, 15:25

Nope. It's just conservatism vs. Al Gore-ism.

by Darkjedi 2009-01-24, 15:27

Shemuel wrote:Yet again in global warming discussions, it is Americans versus Europeans.

Yes...

I bet America can pollute more than Europe!

by Philly Homer 2009-01-24, 15:29

I bet China and India can do more than America and Europe combined! Hence why the US did not sign the Kyoto Protocol, among other reasons.

by Shemuel 2009-01-24, 15:42

Alkanosis wrote:Nope. It's just conservatism vs. Al Gore-ism.

Well over here, almost everyone agrees t's happening. Including the conservatives. Maybe because we have no oil barons to help change our mind.

Alkanosis wrote:I bet China and India can do more than America and Europe combined! Hence why the US did not sign the Kyoto Protocol, among other reasons.

WTH? That's bollocks! Saying "We won't sign because they're outdoing us" is'nt a reason! Why not see who could launch the most nukes into the sky in one go instead?

But before you feel offended Alka, it's not you personally that I'm questioning, just your beliefs Razz

by Philly Homer 2009-01-24, 15:55

Shemuel wrote:Saying "We won't sign because they're outdoing us" is'nt a reason!

Our former President Bush declined to sign the Kyoto Protocol because, apparently, developing nations like China and India are exempt from the restrictions imposed by the document. It would also be detrimental to our already declining economy.

Shemuel wrote:oil barons

Meh. Maybe. And I'm not saying that global warming isn't happening. You would have to be a nearly fundamentalist conservative to believe that it isn't happening. The debatable bit is whether or not the rising temperatures are a direct cause of human actions or not. Historically, this does not seem to be the case. Large amounts of industry occurred in the first half of the 20th century, yet it was followed by a cooling period. The atmospheric temperature has been rising since 1975, but it being due to human activity is questionable.

Shemuel wrote:Offended, beliefs, bleh

I don't really care what people think of me over the internet, really. But it's good that you just don't like my beliefs, after all, what European would?

by leewatson1 2009-01-24, 16:55

Alkanosis wrote:*Shrugs*

And on global warming: It was about 1 or 2 degrees warmer during the Middle Ages, and that has nothing to do with greenhouse gases. It was followed by a cooling period. Later during 1900-1940, industrialization and other such things raised the atmospheric temperature again, but a cooling period followed afterward, causing glaciers to advance and frost to damage crops. Only recently (after 1975 or so) has the global atmospheric temperature risen again. Global warming is not really a viable cause for concern, the atmosphere is in a constant state of flux, warming and cooling. Global warming is really nothing to be afraid of; just a political scare.

there is some truth behind it but the main reason for this can be explained through homeostasis

by Philly Homer 2009-01-24, 17:23

Umm... what are you smoking? Homeostasis is an organism keeping internal conditions stable, in other words, an animal keeping its bodily functions running smoothly.

by **Thingy** 2009-01-24, 17:54

Sure, the chinese and indians are messing up the world more than the US and europe but that's no reason to say no to the protocols, USA is still having a big effect on global warming(mostly because most people cant get themselves out of their cars and have that 5 minute walk to that store or whatever). Like shem said, we dont have all those oil companys trying to make their effect on the world look minimal (take the iraq war for example, they invaded iraq for oil but made everyone think they're doing it for the iraqi people). But that was bush and the republicans, obama and the democrats are probably alot better.

by leewatson1 2009-01-24, 19:04

Alkanosis wrote:Umm... what are you smoking? Homeostasis is an organism keeping internal conditions stable, in other words, an animal keeping its bodily functions running smoothly.

and the way that its works is always in flux trust me if your not me you dont understand my brain

by me naam is m 2009-01-25, 08:16

lee. get of that crack. now... Evil or Very Mad

by Philly Homer 2009-01-25, 21:28

Thingy wrote:Load of liberal bull

Umm... most of the poor decisions were made by Congress. Which is dominated by liberals. The thing is, the president doesn't authorize the spending of money, Congress does. You can't blame the president and the GOP for poor decisions; it's the fault of the entire bureaucracy.

And you seem to be of the though that the world is black and white. In truth, both the Republicans and Democrats and politics in general just suck.

On the Kyoto Protocol... we didn't sign because developing countries such as China and India are exempt from the conditions on the Protocol, despite the fact that they signed it. They can put out as much CO2 as they want but America is made out to be the antagonist? Sorry, not interested.

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