Possible 3d engine?

As some of you may know, I'm seeing if I can spice BM3 up a little, by making it a 3d flash game. it's going to take some testing and may not turn out, but, on the other hand, it could be one of the coolest flash games you'll see

This seems a little unrealistic. But somehow I feel responsible for this idea.

why do you feel responsible for this?

I gave you the link to those cool 3D ships, which had views from different angles. That would make it easier to make a 3D version out of a 2D image.
But then again, maybe my ego is too big :-/
Im also kinda a dick. (I try to be a helpful one though )

oh, actually, that did help in deciding to try 3d, but somebody on vx flash said that it was time for a different graphics interface, so i thought 3d.

You should know what you are getting yourself into. True 3D is still pretty sketchy when it comes to Flash. And even with the pictures, you would still need to find a way to make a finished and textured version of each and every ship. You also might need to ask the webmasters of that site if you can use those as templates for ships in a game.

i wish i could help, but i don't know the first thing about flash programming.

You are the weakest link, Goodbye

May I ask as to your right to respond in that way? I must inform you that I also have no idea about much programming.

Oh, sorry. I was talking to Zare-tul, who may or may nut be related to J-Tul

whats with the hyphen...

If your in for it I say go for it.

It would just be really hard to do.

A: What game engine would you use?
B: How big would the game be? A true 3D enviroment would be at least a few hundred MB if the game has as many systems as Vex's version.
C: How would you handle the moving sprites for things like Phasers or Photon Torpedoes?

I think we would be better off subscribing to EVE. Which is an absolutely gorgeous game if you use premium graphics. And don't even get me started on the scale of the game... Ok I'll shut up.

well, i'm playing around with it on a really stupid trial version of mx. zaretul has pointed out some things i had thought of. chances are, there wouldn' be over 60 playable ships. the thing with this is, unless you have the software, true 3d in flash is nearly impossible. that's why i've taken the approach of making it seem 3d, when it isn't. it's sort of like drawing 3d on paper. you can't actually draw in 3d on a piece of paper, but you can give the illusion that it's 3d.
as for the engine, it is a cross betweeen 3 things, bm's engine, the romulan wars engine, and my own engine. anyways, it's still testing, and it may or may not fly.

this is just to show you what i mean:

http://www.freewebs.com/flashmods/3dflash.swf

use your left arrow, right arrow, up arrow and the spacebar

it's crude, but you'll get the idea

edit- ok, don't click on the link, just copy and paste it to your url bar

Umm...that would take you about five years to do BM3 in that I'd guess

well, I've only worked on it for about an hour and a half

Its still ok, but it would take to long.

probably. it's something i'm going to work with on my spare time, but probably won't make its way into bm3

Oh. :whew: It would have been great, but too demanding

it still would be cool to see BM become 3d some day...

it would also be cool if they made it into a proper game and you got all the money.and then i stole it.

There is this game I have that you might be able to use to get some ideas on fake 3D, it is called Escape Velocity Nova. It is a space RPG, it is actually quite like BM... except without the bugs... or the cheats... and it is $30 for the full version... but if you play BM, you wouldn't have much trouble figuring out the interface. There are some exceptions how ever. You can only have a fleet of 6 escorts, and they always follow you around. And you CAN'T build stations like you can in BM. I show this to you not as a shortcut, but as inspiration. Try the 30 day trial, and look at all the little details.
Like most games that you have to pay for... it is much more refined than flash, but it is not out of flash's capabilities.
http://www.ambrosiasw.com/games/evn/

There are a number of startrek plugins that have been announced, but the game is getting on in years, and most of the major overhauls have lost the spotlight.

interesting, I'll check this out probably later today

The most amazing thing about this though... all the coding, including the engine was made in a mac format that patched together a string of four numbers and letters. I've looked at the coding and it really starts to blur together. How the developers managed to make a decent game with that is unimaginable. If I find a picture I will show you what I mean.

Here is a representation:

4F32 B011 52BF 4510 121F F125 G5F0
5B12 F181 5B1F 9580 241G G134 1FG5
and so on...

weird!

I prefer hard-core awesome.

It is a form of mac binary.

LIES


(I get what your saying though)

hex is 0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,A,B,C,D,E,D
binary is 1,0
Desimal is 0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9
Oct is 0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8

I know what those are, I just wasn't thinking about it.

well, i fell this thread has served its purpose