Linux vs. Windows or Mac

Leach54 wrote:LINUX FTW

Alkanosis wrote:Linux for the lose.

In what way is Linux losing.

http://it.toolbox.com/blogs/locutus/but-linux-has-so-many-little-things-wrong-with-it-36514

It's the same old 'grass is greener on the other side' chestnut, I think.
I wouldn't chose windows over linux if I had to pay for it, but Windows 6.1 is fine - I've had no problems with it at all.

And there's always the "dude, wtf is lidux? Get your priorities right!"

All are good OS, and all have their problems... With windows 7 I've always problem finding my Wireless Drivers... So much that I saved the entire Windows.old folder of Vista so I can have all my pc drivers without seaching...
In Linux, they don't even exist...

In Linux I could keep my pc fresh and running for almost unlimited time... But sometimes I had problem with repositories and had to make a few tweaks... Sometimes, Windows Media Player just forgets the songs I had in my partition D of my hdd...

All have problems... The point is: Choose the one were you can do your work the faster you can and spending as less money you can...

JPB18 wrote:All are good OS, and all have their problems... With windows 7 I've always problem finding my Wireless Drivers... So much that I saved the entire Windows.old folder of Vista so I can have all my pc drivers without seaching...
In Linux, they don't even exist...

WTF? no wireless drivers in linux? that's weird, mine works out of the box. Hell, even my tablet worked out of the box in 'nix, which i can't say for 'dows.

me naam is m wrote:

JPB18 wrote:All are good OS, and all have their problems... With windows 7 I've always problem finding my Wireless Drivers... So much that I saved the entire Windows.old folder of Vista so I can have all my pc drivers without seaching...
In Linux, they don't even exist...

WTF? no wireless drivers in linux? that's weird, mine works out of the box. Hell, even my tablet worked out of the box in 'nix, which i can't say for 'dows.

For my Wireless Card there weren't last time I tried it...

I had a far weaker wireless connection with Ubuntu. It's just because the driver manufacturers don't make it easy for linux.

That's true. Nothing supports Linux, and Linux just has to reverse-engineer almost everything. That being said, my wireless connection with Ubuntu is Much, much better.

me naam is m wrote:That's true. Nothing supports Linux, and Linux just has to reverse-engineer almost everything. That being said, my wireless connection with Ubuntu is Much, much better.

Yup... Linux developers have always to make drivers from scratch, without help of the companies...

It's like trying to build a stargate from the hieroglyphs in the pyramids. I immensely respect those people.

me naam is m wrote:It's like trying to build a stargate from the hieroglyphs in the pyramids. I immensely respect those people.

Good analogy...

But yeah... I started making software oriented programs (more oriented to Windows Market) a few months ago, and now we're starting with Web Languages... I can't imagine how it will be when we arrive to hardware oriented programing...

Those guys are pretty much what keeps the Open Source community alive... or Linux would have been left behind...

Leach54 wrote:

Leach54 wrote:LINUX FTW

Alkanosis wrote:Linux for the lose.

In what way is Linux losing.

By the way, this is Alka we're talking about.
Oh, I could agree with you, jpb. it wouldn't be there without them.

me naam is m wrote:

Leach54 wrote:

Leach54 wrote:LINUX FTW

Alkanosis wrote:Linux for the lose.

In what way is Linux losing.

By the way, this is Alka we're talking about.

Right... we forgot how alka does likes to opose people xD

Anyway... Linux is both loosing and winning... Loosing with the support from major companies, and winning with the growing support of the increasing amount of "Tech Nerds" who use it...

Not to mention it's gaining ground on the portables market. Mac will not fill that hole, and Microsoft cannot. Leaves Linux.

I've never used Linux. I'm just sick of the elitist Linux snobs proclaiming it's the best thing since sliced bread. And I have an irrational hatred of Macs, so that leaves the mainstream choice.

Alkanosis wrote:I've never used Linux. I'm just sick of the elitist Linux snobs proclaiming it's the best thing since sliced bread. And I have an irrational hatred of Macs, so that leaves the mainstream choice.

I don't say Linux is "the best thing since sliced bread"... That's just being a dorky nerd... Linux is a good OS... so is Windows and Mac OS... They all make their function well...

...

It isn't?

*cries*

Elitist snob

*sniff*

Communist!

In the last year major Linux distribution has gone from 39% to almost 91%

I think each OS is suited for a particular type of person. For instance, my Mac works beautifully for me, I have no issues with it, runs smooth and clean. I finally installed an anti-virus on it after having it on the net for a year, did a scan and there were no viruses or anything on it, so that's a plus.
Windows is OK for a general PC, it does excel in some places where other OSs don't (games being the big one people like). I've never used Linux so I have no place to say. But I'd like to remain open to the idea that each OS is just as good as the other, depending on what your intentions are for an OS

Yeah, Linux is more of an OS for people who want it THEIR way, with capitals. Mac is for people who want it the smooth and exclusive way, and windows is for people who just want it.

Yeah... When I wanted the pc the way I wanted, I used Ubuntu... But I somehow reduced the pc from something that mirrors me to a work and fun tool...

Since that day I've been using Windows 7 in my laptop... But everytime I wanna show of all of my skills (one of those days were I take out my bike outside and bring my guitar to light) I like always to show what does the word "Linux" means...

People get like: "How can he do things so opposed?" Easy answers, don't you think?

I've just stumbleupon'd this, and I think it embodies most people's view of linux: LINK

Yeah, that's why I have sysinfo. press button, blap, system specifications. done.

What? Confuse as hell? I do find it a bit confusing, but it was because I just read one in each three lines...

But Linux isn't confusing... It's just a system that can do both what we need and what we want... While Mac OS and Windows only allow us to do what we need to do with the OS... Linux allow us to do what we want with it... and that's the fuzzy part...

Well, the fuzzy part in Linux is where the impossible part in mac and windows is. And people often stumble upon these parts unwittingly.

me naam is m wrote:Well, the fuzzy part in Linux is where the impossible part in mac and windows is. And people often stumble upon these parts unwittingly.

Stumble upon them, and knowing most pc users nowadays are kids and teens thinking they "know it all" start to twiking it and then the problems start to rise up...

Exactly. And then they get back at the support forums, only to find out that nobody has been as stupid as them before, and then they start whining.

me naam is m wrote:Exactly. And then they get back at the support forums, only to find out that nobody has been as stupid as them before, and then they start whining.

And also that they are used to support lines like in MS or Apple, and sometimes even DEMAND they help them or they could "Stop using Linux"...

Response: "We don't care... we don't get money with *name the distro*, so go away... And return to yuor windows sandbox "

How many topics have we had like this? LOL

For me:

Windows = Games and Adobe products (Flash sucks in linux BTW)

Linux = Everything else

The Adobe products (especially the newer ones) work really smoothly on Macs. I think Adobe and Mac have some business ties though so that could explain it

Darkjedi wrote:Windows = Games and Adobe products (Flash sucks in linux BTW)

Hairy, mouldy balls.

Darkwing wrote:The Adobe products (especially the newer ones) work really smoothly on Macs. I think Adobe and Mac have some business ties though so that could explain it

Adobe Products were built on Mac's for Mac's

makes sense why they work so well on them then

With the IPhone/Pad opposition, I think they should pull out though.

I mean, Jobs really bashed Flash.

They have pulled out.

So, without flash... how will they even play websites like Youtube and stuff like that?

HTML5 is coming and rising fast.

The issue with flash is that, well... It sucks hairy lasagne balls, as far as code is concerned. It has even more security risks than IE8, eats whole cpus for breakfast, and in general it's spaghetti coding. Besides that, it's very core is limiting any attempt to making it compatible with new OSes and PC architectures that will continue to develop fast, so it will die out in the end. Jobs is just being very forward about it.

HTML5 oops, too late.

But yes, HTML5 has been uptaken by many big sites such as Youtube already.

The flash abandonment is a bad move though. For video, yes, ditch flash. There's alternatives. For those awesome interactive apps and games...... :echo:... :echo:.... No one steps up to the plate.

When that comes around, even I'll say to hell with flash.

Well... We can start making those with HTML5 related languages

I hope so. Is HTML 5 really that advanced?

Darkwing wrote:The Adobe products (especially the newer ones) work really smoothly on Macs. I think Adobe and Mac have some business ties though so that could explain it

Yes, but Mac is from Apple. but Adobe is refusing to let Apple put flash on its Iphones, and Ipods. Looks like a strike to me.

....i like flash. You're not supposed to build entire sites with it, it's an add-on type of app. That and I won't be able to code HTML5

Apple doesn't need Adobes permission to play flash on their products.

Oh yes they do.

Darkwing wrote:....i like flash. You're not supposed to build entire sites with it, it's an add-on type of app. That and I won't be able to code HTML5

well... HTML isn't exactly a programing language... It's a Mark Up Language... It gives the "main shape" of a website... I guess HTML5 will have support to put vids in formats like avi and wmv... while the others had only support for swf... at best...

yes, but can HTML5 make games? Does it have a visual interface like flash?

Darkwing wrote:yes, but can HTML5 make games? Does it have a visual interface like flash?

Well... Probably it wont... But again... HTML5 will open new doors and close old ones... Maybe there will be a way of making games similar to flash...

well, until it can do all of what flash can and more, I'm not buying into it, or liking it. Flash is a lot more comprehensive then people give it credit for, it's mostly because that use it, don't use it well