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Post by Jtull 2009-04-05, 19:45

a friend of mine told me that she dreamed about a certain situation ( dont read into the fact that my friend is a girl this is about the situation). in this situation there was a choice. kill two people and save 4000 inocents or not do anything and lose everyone.

so really this is more of a what would you do topic.
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Post by FlashFreak22 2009-04-05, 19:58

There was once a debate on TV about this. You see a train that has an unconscious driver, it is headed for 5 workers on the tracks. If you do not switch the train to the side, than they will die no matter what. If you do switch it to the side, the train will kill another worker on the other tracks.
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Post by Jtull 2009-04-05, 20:01

well I ended up killing those 2 people anyway. but I would kill the two for the 4000 but I would still hate that I did that.
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Post by JPB18 2009-04-05, 20:09

The Collective is superior to the individual... I would prefer keeping 4000 people alive instead than only those two guys... But also, I prefer not to have to make that decision...
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Post by FlashFreak22 2009-04-05, 20:10

Anyone would prefer not to do it.
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Post by Jtull 2009-04-05, 20:33

lol. she asked if I would really do that I replyed "if I had to I would. but I wouldent like it."

although she never told me how I killed them but she told me more about what the situation was. it would seem that those 2 people were infeccting people with a artificail viris.
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Post by Galaxy-Scarface 2009-04-05, 21:08

a what? artificial virus? please check your spelling. (i have times like that too)
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Post by Jtull 2009-04-05, 21:18

yes thats it. sorry I had one of those moments where you just cant remember even remotely how to spell some words. lol I once forgot how to draw the number 6 that was in the middle of a math test.
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Post by Philly Homer 2009-04-05, 22:25

Virus? Then hell yeah. I would kill those two and put a quarantine around them, as it saves more lives in the long run. I wouldn't have any regrets, since it's the logical thing to do.
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Post by Jtull 2009-04-05, 23:01

hmm I could try to explane this. but it is far too complex. the virus is being injected by these people they dont have it. quarentine is pointless since it can only be transmited by injection
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Post by Thingy 2009-04-06, 02:20

so they're both incredibly evil terrorists and incredibly deadly? Plus you can kill them? You'd need the IQ of a seagull to say no
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Post by Jtull 2009-04-06, 03:26

yea. thats what I thorght.
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Post by JPB18 2009-04-06, 09:50

In that condition... I would kill them without hesitation... Were's my battle knife? I want to stab them i the neck....
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Post by 11dn11 2009-04-06, 11:01

can i just make the point of saying with this topic, the question ffectivly is kill 2 peple or kill 4000 either way u kill somone
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Post by Insane Crayon 2009-04-06, 11:07

I would kill the two people anyway <.< more elbow room for me to live in
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Post by 11dn11 2009-04-06, 11:11

lol yer but if u let all of them die 4002 lol then uve got elbow room
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Post by FlashFreak22 2009-04-06, 11:12

Yeah, and you would be considered a mass murderer by the other billions of people in the world.
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Post by 11dn11 2009-04-06, 11:32

lol oh well lol my personal advice for anyone in a situation like this would be call the police but if those 2 people are gunnam make u make that decision then they probably deserve to die anyway lol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by Darkjedi 2009-04-06, 12:32

I wouldn't kill the two, I'd just quarantine them.

Killing people is not an option in my book.

Yes, life is precious, but if the people have a hope for resurrection, then it's not that big of a deal.

They would just be getting a short cut out of this terrible system of things.
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Post by 11dn11 2009-04-06, 12:36

i personally think actually if u gave most criminals somthing to believe in such as a religion or a family they would change instantly
i say most cos my dad had both and he is still going to jail
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Post by Darkjedi 2009-04-06, 12:42

Instantly? I'm not so sure about that.

It depends on the person.

But, I have seen the truth change many.
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Post by 11dn11 2009-04-06, 12:44

i only sed that cos i red this true story bout a christian dude called david sumin thaat gav up everyting and went to new york and he changed the leader of a gang and over 50 different gangs and members into christians and it is just brilliant i think
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Post by Darkjedi 2009-04-06, 12:46

Well, what if you change them, and then they turn back on their ways, and then go straight back to the place where they came.

In addition to their regression, they end up climbing higher in the ranks of the gang, and become an even worse person.

They lose control, and get sucked into the loop of pain and destruction.

(personal experience with someone)


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Post by 11dn11 2009-04-06, 12:49

then at that point u can do one of 3 things call the police try agen or have him killed
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Post by Darkjedi 2009-04-06, 13:03

Have them killed?

Well, I'll make a mental note to make sure I never ask you for advice again. LOL!
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Post by 11dn11 2009-04-06, 13:04

lol considering i want to be a social worker that filled me with confidence lol
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Post by Darkjedi 2009-04-06, 13:20

Social worker?

I'm going to help rescue people from this burning world.
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Post by FlashFreak22 2009-04-06, 13:20

DJ, the question is if you let them live, everyone will die. If you kill them you will save 4000 people. If you quarantine them, 4000 people will die. It's as good as murder. ... As bad as murder.
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Post by Darkjedi 2009-04-06, 13:23

No it's not.

If that were the case, then living would be murder.
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Post by 11dn11 2009-04-06, 13:26

btw wen all the stuff (wont go into detail unless asked to) unrveled sbout my dad i would have done anything for a social woker to ehelp me, and i think this world is corrpt cos to many people are mentaly dearanged so they need help.
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Post by Darkjedi 2009-04-06, 13:28

That is true.

Some are mentally deranged, but some a just plain evil.

(And sometimes both)
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Post by FlashFreak22 2009-04-06, 13:33

[jk]:Cough:DJ:Cough:[/jk]
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Post by 11dn11 2009-04-06, 13:40

lol i want ot know how somone could be just plain evil lol i mean it is true we are all incoent at birth so wer dus that innocense go??
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Post by Meganew Trek 2009-04-06, 14:01

"The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few." Famous Vulcan saying.

This does make sense(most of the time), however, the saying is not always correct.
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Post by Darkjedi 2009-04-06, 14:13

11dn11 wrote:lol i want ot know how somone could be just plain evil lol i mean it is true we are all incoent at birth so wer dus that innocense go??
Our innocence is sucked away by imperfection, and the world's disgusting influence of evil.

(But, we can choose how much evil we want to take into ourselves. Yes, we are imperfect, and are thus undoubtedly going to have sins; but we can give our greatest effort to become the best person possible.
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Post by 11dn11 2009-04-06, 14:19

as a christian i beleive that the devil puts his weight in but i think he doesnt actually have to do anything anymore i think that the only had to corrupt the first people then we decided it was good to be bad so we continued itthe devil now probabl just lazes around heaven
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Post by Darkjedi 2009-04-06, 14:24

He doesn't do anything anymore? LOL!

How do you think voodoo people get their power?

Oh, and the devil got his butt kicked out of heaven a while back.
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Post by 11dn11 2009-04-06, 14:29

u see that is a comon misconception he is stll in heaven but he is not of any power there my step dad has studied it all lol. and voodo is fake only a few people are true and yes ill admit that the devil is active for them (god that sounds wrong(god i have a sick mind(gosh i should stop using blasphomy))) and anyway it could be any of his slaves that do it
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Post by FlashFreak22 2009-04-06, 14:30

Lucifer got his butt kicked out of Heaven, dn...
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Post by 11dn11 2009-04-06, 14:37

wait yoer ure right he got kicked out of heaven the common misconception is he didnt go to hell he is on the planet earth because he goes to hell in his own prison at the final batle call teh acopilipse
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Post by FlashFreak22 2009-04-06, 14:44

Apocalypse?
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Post by 11dn11 2009-04-06, 14:47

yer thats the one
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Post by Philly Homer 2009-04-06, 17:25

Would it kill you to get a spell-check? I have no idea what "yer" means, amongst many other things that you try to say...

Ending the religious debate, Lucifer was kicked out of heaven. He has no power but power to tempt people, and sin is us giving into temptation.
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Post by 11dn11 2009-04-06, 17:26

no offence but are u dumb or sumin yer as in yeah as in yes lol wtf how is that difficult???
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Post by me naam is m 2009-04-06, 17:28

Dancing Lock ?
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Post by 11dn11 2009-04-06, 17:30

lol wth
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Post by Philly Homer 2009-04-06, 17:32

11dn11 wrote:no offence but are u dumb or sumin yer as in yeah as in yes lol wtf how is that difficult???

And thus proving my point. I'm just saying that you should refrain from butchering the English language further than it already has been.
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Post by Insane Crayon 2009-04-06, 17:37

He is using a sub-dialect known as text talk.. so yeah <.<
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Post by Philly Homer 2009-04-06, 17:38

I refuse to recognize caht-speek as a dialect of the English language.
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Post by 11dn11 2009-04-06, 17:58

wat country are u from???
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