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Post by raffitz 2009-07-20, 07:41

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Post by Shemuel 2009-07-20, 08:18

Very true..even the "I am your father!!"
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Post by Darkwing 2009-07-20, 11:28

there's a trailer somewhere of star wars clips dubbed over with the trailer from trek, it was pretty good
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Post by JPB18 2009-07-20, 11:43

Indeed it was... wait... waaaaiiiiiiitttttt! DW! Since when do you like Halo? I though you where a flash addicted and you only loved Star Trek... weird...
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Post by Darkwing 2009-07-20, 12:54

since i bought halo about a week ago (that's right ladies and gents, i bought my first video game! though i do own a couple of other games through them being given to me)
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Post by A-BIack_Man 2009-07-20, 13:13

you mean... youve never played super mario?
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Post by Darkwing 2009-07-20, 13:31

um, no i don't think so
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Post by Thingy 2009-07-20, 13:38

Darkwing wrote:since i bought halo about a week ago (that's right ladies and gents, i bought my first video game! though i do own a couple of other games through them being given to me)


Yeeees, young n00bz0rz... Soon, your journey towards the gamer side shall be complete, and you'll be playing harcore titles like mass effect 2 and WOW... You're getting closer with every grunt and elite you strike DOWN WITH ALL YOUR SK1LLZ! MUAHAHAHA

Ehm... anyways....

Hey! that's actually right! i had no idea! They're actually nearly identical!
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Post by Darkwing 2009-07-20, 14:02

we were actually discussing this in media studies one day, about the re-use of plots and plot elements, such as star wars and harry potter being almost the same (that got a lot of people upset) and star wars was a rip-off of something older, i forget what, but it just goes back and back and back
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Post by JPB18 2009-07-20, 16:28

Actually it's more like SW was a rip of ST and ST being a rip off of something old...
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Post by raffitz 2009-07-20, 17:48

No, but when Star Wars was made, Star Trek wasn't like this, so Star Trek was a rip of Star Wars, JPB...
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Post by Darkwing 2009-07-20, 18:39

i think he means tos
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Post by raffitz 2009-07-20, 19:03

Yes, I know what he meant, but that line of thought is wrong, I believe, because the plot in Star Wars has nothing to do with the TOS plot (or any other Star Trek plot except for Star Trek XI).
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Post by JPB18 2009-07-20, 20:47

I ment to say that George Lucas got inspired on Star Trek! And I remember seeing that both Star Wars trilogies where almost inspired one another... and I think it was in this forum... and I think it was you, raffitz...
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Post by Darkwing 2009-07-20, 22:17

well, if you break it down into plot elements/characters (and I'm talking TOS here)

Han Solo = Kirk: They're both independent and make the decisions on the fly. Both are Captain of their own ships and each get the girls

Obi-Wan = Spock: Wise and thoughtful, though one has mystical abilities to move things and stuff, the other can read minds, incapacitate somebody with a pinch. Both are relatively older characters in each's show

Luke = McCoy: Though one is a trained physician, both are the human element to the plots. Each one caring about what happens to the people screw the logic. Though Luke is more adventurous then McCoy, some could argue Luke as Kirk to a degree

Darth Vader = Khan: Both are equally angry though costuming is different both are in some sense modified ie Khan is an augment and Vader a robot


Now Trek itself is more a rip-off of an old fifties movie called forbidden planet, it is very similar in character, plot and atmosphere
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Post by Roger Smith 2009-07-20, 23:38

Everything is derivative. It's all cowboys and Indians in space anyway.
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Post by Darkwing 2009-07-21, 00:56

yep, that's actually how they sold star trek to the distributors, they called it a western in space
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Post by Galaxy-Scarface 2009-07-21, 11:34

like the TNG episode that was a western? i only watched half of it though because i was on vacation when it was on and ive never seen it since
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Post by raffitz 2009-07-21, 17:27

The one with the multiple Datas? Loved that episode...
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Post by Earthdeath 2009-07-21, 17:33

Which one was that? The episode name? I might watch it.

As for SW ripping ST, yeah, Lucas did. And its worse in my opinion.
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Post by Thingy 2009-07-21, 17:37

how the hell did he do that? last time i checked there werent any space stations, force powers or light sabers in ST. Also, ST was about exploration, SW was about a civil war between good and evil.
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Post by JPB18 2009-07-21, 17:40

1st - There was SpaceStations in TOS...
2nd - I think it was like... the idea of making a space film was after seeing a ST episode, something like that...
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Post by Thingy 2009-07-21, 17:44

Yes, but not the size of small moons and capable of destroying planets, also there's tons of space stations in other sci fi's. And yes, but that's still not enough to be considered a rip off.
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