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Post by Darkwing 2011-05-27, 16:23

Dunno why, maybe the weather, but I suddenly felt nostalgic, felt like going back and reviewing Flash Trek a little. It's kinda weird really because FT was the rage of internet flash games and for some reason seemed to die when BM3 died. I mean there's been people attempt to make the plethora of bad mods known as sequels but they don't get much attention.
It's just weird because there used to be so much interest. I actually just looked up Broken Mirror 3 on Google (never did that before). I never knew there was a wiki questions thread about the game Razz
But it is hard to believe, it's been 2 years since BM3 came to a halt and like I said, maybe it's the weather, but I got this strange urge to try and make an FT game again, except the same problem still exists and it's that I don't have Flash and probably by the time I do, I'll be in university with no time to make anything.
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Post by Vedic 2011-05-27, 17:03

Who are you, and what have you done with, our Darkwing?
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Post by Shemuel 2011-05-27, 17:28

Flash Trek BM3

Resurrect the action today!
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Post by Darkwing 2011-05-27, 17:43

Ha ha, love it! Though assuming I did have flash suddenly, I kinda have to re-learn everything, I can't even remember how to properly write an onClipEvent action
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Post by Galaxy-Scarface 2011-05-27, 18:06

That happened to me about a week ago when the newbies posted in the archives section(Where did these newbies go, anyway? they come for 2 days and never come back? NOT GOOD!)and i saw all the old FT stuff. I even played a game of the original BM and of When Universes Collide. It would be pretty sweet if you could work on BM3 again, not to mention the activity boost that will definitely happen. Also, if there's a backup/source out there, you wouldn't have to re-start it, you could modify a few things and continue from where you left off all those years ago...
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Post by Leach54 2011-05-27, 19:32

The game is the original reason i came to the site! But your right, it would be a pain to code.
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Post by Galaxy-Scarface 2011-05-27, 20:28

but it would be worth it! if you can somehow get flash, that is.
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Post by Vedic 2011-05-27, 20:30

Would be even more awesome, if he used updated Sprites, so it actually looks good.
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Post by Shemuel 2011-05-28, 00:19

Can games be designed in HTML5?
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Post by Darkwing 2011-05-28, 00:46

@Vedic, oh yeah, I actually have a design style in mind for everything, but it would get a major graphical overhaul.

@Shem I don't think so yet, or at least nothing as complex as a BM game.

Also, I think I'd really toy with the notion of coding this game from scratch, perhaps expand upon ideas from Flash Trek Galaxies
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Post by Vedic 2011-05-28, 00:48

Darkwing wrote:@Vedic, oh yeah, I actually have a design style in mind for everything, but it would get a major graphical overhaul.

You Ser, are Officially even more Awesome.


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Post by Darkwing 2011-05-28, 00:50

See, the thing I would do would be different than everyone else. In retrospect, what everyone does when they mod or make a flash trek game is they go for adding more ships, more stuff. I think this time round, I'd go for less, but done well. For instance, limiting the player to only a couple types of ships so that you could have things like properly firing weapons that don't just come from the center, upgrades to your ship, things of that nature.
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Post by Vedic 2011-05-28, 00:53

Proper Firing Arcs...Nice [EDIT] ok didn't read your post properly there....

and i agree there were way to many Ships in BM.
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Post by Darkwing 2011-05-28, 00:55

I think it would be better to have only a few ships that were well done with things like proper firing arcs, maybe even the option for a Bridge Commander-esque style where you can control your ship from the "bridge" so your view is actually out of a viewscreen
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Post by Vedic 2011-05-28, 01:02

That would require some hardcore Coding.
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Post by Darkwing 2011-05-28, 01:12

It would, but I also don't think it would be as hard as it seems as long as the ships were the right size. See that's why you'd limit it to only a few ships, simply because the weapons don't all line up
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Post by Vedic 2011-05-28, 01:39

So i guess your going for an "Realistic" feel to the game...no Borg Rape Weapons for any more.
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Post by Leach54 2011-05-28, 03:04

I think you are approaching the border of Flash and then more powerful languages... (Java, C#, C++, etc...)
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Post by Gamerang 2011-05-28, 06:49

I actually asked my friend of mine a few weeks ago if he was willing to make some kind of ST based game. He's 12 and he knows full Java and HTML o.o but yeah good to see BM3 might be coming back!
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Post by Darkwing 2011-05-28, 12:04

Before we get all excited here, remember that I still lack Flash
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Post by Vedic 2011-05-28, 14:16

Please it's Row A tia Easy Bountiny Asorer Yay!

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Post by A-BIack_Man 2011-05-28, 14:18

As long as you get the hype up on the interwebs, we'll get a load of new people here. But it's good to hear that you're thinking about starting it up again. You could always screw college payments, and get flash, because its not like you'll be paying them off for a decade anyway.
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Post by Leach54 2011-05-28, 14:44

its funny to see a topic about nostalgia turn into a "Its coming back" thread.
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Post by Gamerang 2011-05-28, 15:06

well if it does get started keep at it. I never finish anything usually because I lose interest in it.
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Post by Leach54 2011-05-28, 18:21

Oh certainly i am interested in a comeback. I was just commenting on the evolution of the topic.
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Post by Darkwing 2011-05-29, 11:07

Yeah, I guess it shows people still want to see new along the lines of Flash Trek, it's just nobody is doing new!

Thing is, even if I did have access to Flash now, it would still take years to make a game like this, especially with me starting university in the fall. Of course I do intend to buy an academic version of Production Suite (CS5) once I have a student ID, but that may not be until the fall
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Post by Leach54 2011-05-29, 14:03

Yeah. And i would learn flash coding if i had the time but/ im already busy as it is. Ill stick to Java next year.
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Post by Darkwing 2011-05-30, 00:52

Of course the question is, even if I took Vedic's route to obtaining Flash, do I really have the time to embark on such a project which does include re-learning Flash to a degree
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Post by Leach54 2011-05-30, 04:36

Time, Time, Rime...
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Post by Galaxy-Scarface 2011-05-30, 11:10

you know you want to...
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Post by Gamerang 2011-05-30, 11:36

the question is will it be worth it if you do.
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Post by Darkwing 2011-05-30, 12:09

It's not really a matter of worth to me, things never are. I work for the sake of working and keep busy for the sake of being busy
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Post by Gamerang 2011-05-30, 15:41

well if you want to do it.. do it. There isn't any major things stopping you at least not many anyway and well you won't get argument from anyone on here.
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Post by Galaxy-Scarface 2011-05-30, 16:30

and if you do it this place will make a huge comeback for sure Very Happy
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Post by Gamerang 2011-05-30, 17:45

Yeah ratings will defiantly climb. Plus this will be the final end to the series and maybe even an end to the endless people wanting to make another BM. I had someone the other day talking about a BM8.
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Post by Galaxy-Scarface 2011-05-30, 19:53

BM8!? BLOL! where's BM 5, BM6, and BM7?
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Post by Darkwing 2011-05-30, 22:06

If EP wasn't banned, you could ask him...
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Post by Leach54 2011-05-30, 22:54

I remember myself posting (after something about a BM5)"I better get started on BM27" Its so popular its ridiculous.
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Post by Darkwing 2011-05-30, 22:56

The thing is it's not that popular in some ways. Like a brand new Broken Mirror that is that, new, that would be popular, but these mods have people utterly tired with BM and Flash Trek in general
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Post by Gamerang 2011-05-31, 06:15

Galaxy-Scarface wrote:BM8!? BLOL! where's BM 5, BM6, and BM7?

BM5 was been made by a guy called Skembri as was BM6 both destined for failiure. I heard a guy called Federation01 from vex's forum was making BM7.
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Post by Darkwing 2011-05-31, 11:42

Oh Federation01, he as originally from here until he was also banned
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Post by Gamerang 2011-05-31, 13:31

I take he didn't complete BM7 then.
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Post by Darkwing 2011-05-31, 13:33

I highly doubt it
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Post by Gamerang 2011-05-31, 13:35

Tbh I doubt he even got anything ready. Like most new BM's after Bm3 there ideas that barley or don't take off. I consider there to be two BM's 1 and 2 and 3 if/when it's finished.
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Post by Darkwing 2011-05-31, 13:40

That and BM3 did have the direct blessing of Vex himself back in the day Very Happy
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Post by Gamerang 2011-05-31, 14:11

Well considering every successful flashtrek game has had the support of Lord Vex BM3 should come up thumbs.
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Post by Darkwing 2011-05-31, 14:45

Well, one would hope Wink
Though I definitely learned some lessons from the old BM3 and one of them is if I tackled BM3 again, I would have everything planned out, storyline, characters, ships, stats, all of it planned before any coding even begins
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Post by Gamerang 2011-05-31, 15:55

Good idea Smile That's one of the main reasons I never finish any of my projects. No actual plan I just make it as it comes.
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Post by Vedic 2011-05-31, 16:16

Darkwing wrote:It's not really a matter of worth to me, things never are. I work for the sake of working and keep busy for the sake of being busy

I'm pretty much the same there.
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Post by Darkwing 2011-06-01, 11:15

Gamerang wrote:Good idea Smile That's one of the main reasons I never finish any of my projects. No actual plan I just make it as it comes.
It also is a great way for people to become involved in the project, regardless of whether or not they have flash or know coding or any of that
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